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2009 Winner: Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel

Aredeeoh
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I'm in the "already knew the history" group, but always felt that TC had a bad deal from the press, and that More wasn't the idealist Scofield portrayed - so was positively disposed towards this book from the start. Maybe that skewed ny view - but I loved it. Soon got into the "he" and also had no difficulties with the present tense (me- who shouts at telly Historians when they use it). I didn't find it just a re-telling of events I already knew, but a sly and fascinating study of people who have over the years become caricatures.The period it deals with is such a truly momentous one and Mantel raises so many questions about the role of individuals at times like these.

Posted 11 months ago  

Mo
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Phew. Just finished Wolf Hall. It was an ordeal because historical novels are not my genre. I liked the detail: food, Thomas's extended family ... And there was some beautiful writing towards the end. But it was a tough read with the awkward "he" and the length. I've just started Summertime and that's a whole new ball game. I look forward to picking it up again. It's innovative but has clarity - it talks to me!

Posted 11 months ago  

Ang
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So true, John Self - I was in the same boat as you. I think those who know their Tudor history, along with fans of Phillippa Gregory might be surprised. That's just what I've read about it, as I am neither. I think JJ and bookermt are saying they know quite a lot about this period of history already, so it is to them that I made the remark.

For me, much of it was a surprise (yes, Kevin, a surprise!) as I didn't understand the relationship between England and the Catholic Church and how that relationship was broken. But Kevin, you fall into the camp of knowing the history, so maybe what I have read about it being a fresh take on T. Cromwell / T. More is wrong.

Posted 11 months ago  

KevinfromCanada
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"Surprise" is not a word that I would associate with this book.

Posted 11 months ago  

JohnSelf
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Maybe so Ang, but if, like me, you hadn't heard of Thomas Cromwell before Wolf Hall, they aren't going to be surprises.

Posted 11 months ago  

Ang
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My understanding is that this is a more sympathetic rendering of Thomas Cromwell than other authors are inclined to, so there might be some surprises on the way, JJ.

Posted 11 months ago  

JJ
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I'm 60 pages in. I normally avoid the direct threads until I've finished the book in question but I needed a moral boost! I'm finding it an easy, interesting read but, Bookermt's comments hit the nail on the head for me so far. I feel I know what's going to happen and the author is restrained by the facts .... but it's early days and only another 600+ pages to go!

Posted 11 months ago  

sheelaghgal
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I am about halfway through Wolf Hall and I'm loving it. Maybe that's a problem. It's so exciting and interesting that you just want to keep reading rather than stopping to think about it.
I agree with emilyanne that it is more than a straight retelling but also with other people who say it is reminding them of things they know about vaguely and that filling in of gaps and insights into well-known characters is somehow very satisfying, comforting almost.
I thought the depiction of Wolsey and the complexity of his character was splendid but of course I need to wait and see how Cromwell turns out.
I have kept away from reviews until reading the above but I can't help comparing this to The Children's Book which I'm still thinking about weeks after I finished reading it and which -dare I say it?-deserves to win because of the sheer scale of its plot and the humanity of the characterisation.

Posted 11 months ago  

DrMama
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I lost heart this year when the only two books that I admired - almost - unconditionally ('Brooklyn' and 'Love and Summer') were kicked out before I got round to posting my thoughts. However, 'Wolf Hall' has revived me (that and the exchanges about African fiction).
I am half way through and I think it is superb.

I will post full thoughts when I've finished reading it; hopefully that will be soon ... although I am waiting for my Amazon copy to arrive. I was reading a library copy, with only a few days left before it had to be returned. I read very slowly, and I have other commitments, so my partner decided to order me my own copy as a present, then I could relax my reading regime and return the library copy ... but after 2 days without 'Wolf Hall' I am suffering withdrawl symptoms!

Posted 11 months ago  

JohnSelf
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I've just started it, page 60 or so, and am enjoying it well enough though it's not blowing me away.

Posted 11 months ago  

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